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  • Thucydides, The Peloponnesian War

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    LXXVI. The struggle now was between the army trying to force a democracy upon the city, and the Four Hundred an oligarchy upon the camp. [2] Meanwhile the soldiers forthwith held an assembly, in which they deposed the former generals and any of the captains whom they suspected, and chose new captains and generals to replace them, besides Thrasybulus and Thrasyllus, whom they had already. [3] They also stood up and encouraged one another, and among other things urged that they ought not to lose heart because the city had revolted from them, as the party seceding was smaller and in every way poorer in resources than themselves. [4] They had the whole fleet with which to compel the other cities in their empire to give them money just as if they had their base in the capital, having a city in Samos which, so far from wanting strength, had when at war been within an ace of depriving the Athenians of the command of the sea, while as far as the enemy was concerned they had the same base of operations as before. Indeed, with the fleet in their hands, they were better able to provide themselves with supplies than the government at home. [5] It was their advanced position at Samos which had throughout enabled the home authorities to command the entrance into Piraeus; and if they refused to give them back the constitution, they would now find that the army was more in a position to exclude them from the sea than they were to exclude the army. [6] Besides, the city was of little or no use towards enabling them to overcome the enemy; and they had lost nothing in losing those who had no longer either money to send them (the soldiers having to find this for themselves), or good counsel, which entitles cities to direct armies. On the contrary, even in this the home government had done wrong in abolishing the institutions of their ancestors, while the army maintained the said institutions, and would try to force the home government to do so likewise. So that even in point of good counsel the camp had as good counsellors as the city. [7] Moreover, they had but to grant him security for his person and his recall, and Alcibiades would be only too glad to procure them the alliance of the king. And above all, if they failed altogether, with the navy which they possessed, they had numbers of places to retire to in which they would find cities and lands.



    There are a total of 36 comments on and cross references to this page.

    Further comments from T. G. Tucker, Commentary on Thucydides: Book 8:
    book 8 (general note)
    book 8, chapter 76 (general note)
    book 8, chapter 76, section 1: hoi men
    book 8, chapter 76, section 1: hoi de
    book 8, chapter 76, section 1: anankazontes
    book 8, chapter 76, section 1: epoêsan
    book 8, chapter 76, section 1: epausan
    book 8, chapter 76, section 4: echontôn sphôn. echontes
    book 8, chapter 76, section 4: tas te allas k.t.l.
    book 8, chapter 76, section 4: ta chrêmata
    book 8, chapter 76, section 4: par' elachiston dê
    book 8, chapter 76, section 4: hote epolemêsen
    book 8, chapter 76, section 4: houper
    book 8, chapter 76, section 4: spheis
    book 8, chapter 76, section 5: kai di' heautous te
    book 8, chapter 76, section 5: prokathêmenous
    book 8, chapter 76, section 5: autous
    book 8, chapter 76, section 5: hoi
    book 8, chapter 76, section 5: kai nun . . . katastêsontai
    book 8, chapter 76, section 5: kai dunatôteroi
    book 8, chapter 76, section 6: brachu te ti, te
    book 8, chapter 76, section 6: apolôlekenai
    book 8, chapter 76, section 6: hoi ge
    book 8, chapter 76, section 6: mête
    book 8, chapter 76, section 6: all' autoi . . . stratiôtai
    book 8, chapter 76, section 6: houper heneka k.t.l.
    book 8, chapter 76, section 6: kai en toutois
    book 8, chapter 76, section 6: autoi de sôizein k.t.l.
    book 8, chapter 76, section 6: hôste oude toutous . . . cheirous einai
    book 8, chapter 76, section 6: hôste oude

    Cross references from Sir Richard Jebb, Commentary on Sophocles: Oedipus at Colonus:
    *

    Cross references from Raphael Kühner, Bernhard Gerth, Ausführliche Grammatik der griechischen Sprache (ed. Ildar Ibraguimov):
    440 [4) Para, bei, und pros, vor.]

    Cross references from E.C. Marchant, Commentary on Thucydides: Book 2:
    2, 5, 5 [Commentary on Book 2]
    2, 11, 5 [Commentary on Book 2]
    2, 60, 6 [Commentary on Book 2]

    Cross references from T. G. Tucker, Commentary on Thucydides: Book 8:
    8, 61, 2
    8, 100, 1
    8, 48, 3
    8, 81, 1
    8, 32, 3
    8, 33, 3
    8, 73, 1
    8, 76, 5
    8, 81, 1

    Cross references from C.E. Graves, Commentary on Thucydides: Book 4:
    4, 89
    4, 89
    4, 89

    Cross references from C.E. Graves, Commentary on Thucydides: Book 5:
    5, 35
    5, 40
    5, 55

    Cross references from Reginald Walter Macan, Herodotus: The Seventh, Eighth, & Ninth Books with Introduction and Commentary:
    8, 61

    Cross references from Harry Thurston Peck, Harpers Dictionary of Classical Antiquities (1898):
    peloponnesian-war [Peloponnesian War]

    Cross references from William Watson Goodwin, Syntax of the Moods and Tenses of the Greek Verb:
    594 [hôste with the Infinitive.]

    Cross references from Harold North Fowler, Commentary on Thucydides Book 5:
    5, 35

    Cross references from Charles D. Morris, Commentary on Thucydides Book 1:
    1, 67
    1, 20
    1, 65


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    Thucydides. The Peloponnesian War. London, J. M. Dent; New York, E. P. Dutton. 1910.


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