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    [411a] “Certainly.” “And that of the ill adjusted is cowardiy and rude?” “It surely is.”

    “Now when a man abandons himself to music to play1 upon him and pour2 into his soul as it were through the funnel of his ears those sweet, soft, and dirge-like airs of which we were just now3 speaking, and gives his entire time to the warblings and blandishments of song, the first result is that the principle of high spirit, if he had it,


    1 Cf. 561 C.

    2 Demetrius,Peri Herm. 51, quotes this and the following sentence as an example of the more vivid expression following the less vivid. For the image cf. Blaydes on Aristophanes Thesm. 18, Aeschylus Choeph. 451, Shakespeare, CymbelineIII. ii. 59 “Love's counsellor should fill the bores of hearing.”

    3 Cf. 398 D-E, where the thrênôdeis harmoniai are rejected altogether, while here they are used to illustrate the softening effect of music on a hard temperament. It is misspent ingenuity to harp on such “contradictions.”


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    Further comments from James Adam, The Republic of Plato:
    book 3 (general note)
    book 3, section 411a: kataulein -- harmonias


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