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    R. G. Bury, The Symposium of Plato

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    Commentary on Plato, Symposium. section 176e.

    [176E] houtô...pros hêdonên . houtôs is frequently used thus in combination with adverbs (esp. rhadiôs, eikêi, haplôs, and the like; see Blaydes on Ar. Vesp. 461) where it has “a diminishing power” (L. and S.), e.g. 180 C infra, Gorg. 503 D; cp. the force of sic in such phrases as “iacentes sic temere” (Hor. C. II. xi. 14).

    touto men ktl. The antithesis to the men-clause lies, not in the clause epanankes de m. einai, but in to meta touto ktl. Cp. Arist. Pol. 1278^{b} 6 epei de tauta diôristai, to meta tauta skepteon poteron ktl.

    epanankes. Cp. Theogn. 472 pan gar anankaion chrêm' aniêron ephu: | tôi pinein d' ethelonti parastadon oinochoeitô--where a similar relaxation of compulsory rules is advocated.

    eisêgoumai. “I propose,” suadeo: cp. Crito 48 A; Xen. Mem. II. 7. 10.

    tên...aulêtrida. It was the fashion at convivia to provide pipers, dancers, jesters, jugglers et hoc genus omne to amuse the guests. Cp. Xen. Symp. II. 1, Rep. 373 A klinai te...kai hetairai kai pemmata (with Adam's note); Ar. Ach. 1090 ff.; also Protag. 347 C, D (see next page).

    tais endon. Sc. en tôi gunaikeiôi. [p. 18]

    di hoiôn logôn. For an appreciation of the sunousia dia logôn, cp. Theogn. 493 ff. humeis d' eu mutheisthe para krêtêri menontes... | es to meson phôneuntes homôs heni kai sunapasin: | choutôs sumposion ginetai ouk achari. Simplic. in Epict. 33. 6, p. 266 kalôs eirêtai hoti hê chôris logôn trapeza phatnês ouden diapherei which is probably a reminiscence of Protag. 347 C, D kai gar houtoi (sc. hoi phauloi kai agoraioi), dia to mê dunasthai allêlois di heautôn suneinai en tôi potôi mêde dia tês heautôn phônês kai tôn logôn tôn heautôn hupo apaideusias, timias poiousi tas aulêtridas ktl. Cp. Phaedrus 276 D.



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